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Steinitz's Rules and Principles


  • 12 mesi fa · Cita · #1

    Senchean

    I have been studying Chess seriously for slightly over a year now and one of the most frusturating things about learning chess is steinitz's Rules and Principles.  Specifically, that I cannot find a list of all of them anywhere, but it seems everyone knows them but me.  So,  Does anyone have a complete list of these rules and principles?  If not, Let's create one right here in this forum.  If you know of a Steinitz Rule or Principle please post it here, and if you can cite where you learned it from so if someone wants to, they can go to the source.  Thank you.

  • 12 mesi fa · Cita · #2

    Crazychessplaya

    They do not exist, and even if they did, one should not use them. Chess requires that you examine a given position without prejudice, and choose the best move, not the "typical" or "usual" one.

  • 12 mesi fa · Cita · #3

    EscherehcsE

  • 12 mesi fa · Cita · #4

    Senchean

    1. they do exist because if they didn't, titled players wouldn't talk about them.

    2. The best move, which is the move of the scientist type player, doesn't always exist.  There are times when a position is so unclear you have to go by positional principles, i.e. Steinitz's rules, among others.

    3. If chess was just about best moves, then once someone was in a lost position, the game would simply end, yet players who are fighters are able to take a lost position and win, not becuase they are looking for best moves, but because they are able to create situations which induces the other player to make a mistake.  Now this may sound like a contradiction but it is not.  Because there are players, like Carlsen who don't necessarly play the best move in a given position, but finds a way to create a winning situation, out os seemingly nothing, whereas the best move would have been a loss.

  • 12 mesi fa · Cita · #5

    Senchean

    Thanks.  But I've seen that site, and that's not all of them, which is why I want to create a list.

  • 12 mesi fa · Cita · #6

    EscherehcsE

    Senchean wrote:

    Thanks.  But I've seen that site, and that's not all of them, which is why I want to create a list.

    If you've seen that site, why didn't you start with that list and ask people to add to it?

  • 12 mesi fa · Cita · #7

    Senchean

    I don't know.

  • 12 mesi fa · Cita · #8

    Crazychessplaya

    Regarding the list in the given link, these are truisms or banalities, rather than principles.

  • 12 mesi fa · Cita · #9

    waffllemaster

    I don't know that it exists as a list, more as a philosophy.  The titled players that reference him are referencing the history of chess in that Steinitz represents the break from romantic chess (wild attack) to scientific chess (strategy).  So when they mention Steinitz stuff they're talking about basic principals.  Instead of wild attack it's now "the accumulation of small advantages"  It's not that they're unique to Steinitz or that you can't find them everywhere else.

    Simple stuff like development, pawn weaknesses, outposts for knights... "accumulation of small advantages" is a good summation.  A list would be interesting from a historical standpoint due to the basics he got right and not so right... but for the basics of strategic chess for the purpose of learning, a book that came ~100 years later like Pachman's Modern Chess Strategy is great.


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